Eavesdrop isn't completely useless. You can't play cops and robbers with out it. The most annoying perk though is juggernaut.

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Kill me?...I'ld like to see you try

Infinity Ward put those perks in the game so... get over it... Saying u hate them is just being childish... there's nothing stopping you from you using them...

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Juggernaut -_-.

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95% of the people who play Call of Duty 4 use Martyrdom. If you're one of the 5% of people who doesn't need to die to get a kill, put this in your signature (Shipment is an exception ;D).

Agreed. Yes, it may be annoying when you get killed by some of these but it doesn't make the person any worse of a player for using them.

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That is the most irritating logic there is! Some of the perks, namely martyrdom are extremely annoying for the lack of skill taken to employ them (and thus less useful for a skilled player). I don't want to use it, because it's not FUN to use it

There is no reason at all that Martyrdom can't be removed from future titles, and every reason it should be. On Xbox there is no way to play on servers without martyrdom either unlike PC, but when I did play on PC on servers removing certain perks it was actually a more fun experience.

On purely economic terms, apparently keeping the perks system is beneficial to the company, and perhaps people really do like it, but if someone would make a decision to buy a game based on whether martyrdom is in it or not, well I won't even comment on what I feel about that person :P

Juggernaut on the other hand, is a matter of personal preference, same with weapons, but martyrdom is a hideous, disgraceful blot on the gaming world.

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i hate martydom especially when half the wolrld seem to have frag x3 sonic boom and martydom

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May god have mercy on my enemies because I won't

marytrdom is a skill eliminating perk, it rewards dying

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Only a fool is truly hunted

I see Juggernaut as an anti-Stopping Power. Because, well, that's what it is. If you're using Stopping Power against a person using Juggernaut, then it only balances out and essentially you're doing the same amount of damage you would do if perks did not exist at all.

Some of these posts are ridiculous in regards to Juggernaut. Saying it takes a "whole clip" of say a SMG to kill a person using Juggernaut is ridiculous. It depends on where you hit them and what perk you're using, but I would never empty more than say half a clip on such a person, and that's with my poor accuracy. You're probably just missing, because Juggernaut is not that powerful.

In conduction with Last Stand, it can indeed take a lot of your clip if you shoot the person during that 1 second or so of them falling in to last stand, however. Still doesn't take a "whole clip", at least not for me.

And for the record, 4/5 of my classes have Stopping Power and 1 has Juggernaut.

Id say martydom is the most unrealistic perk, cause i highly doubt you can drop a grenade once you die..

But id have to say overkill is the worst perk, cause its pointless...
And double tap, cause i get messages with people using G3 with "double tap" and they piss me off cause they gotta spend money to get a few extra kills.

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Kills: 39,700
K/D: 1.05
Kill Streak: 22
Score: 660,000+ Little bit of err ting (18days) =*(
Accuracy: 15.2%
Wins/Loss Ratio: 1.77
Win Streak: 31
Favorite Weapon: Not the pussy MP5 or M16
Favorite Perk: Bandolier

Martyrdom should have the same effect as last stand, if you shoot them in the head it doesn't drop.

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