martydom on hardcore is the most annoying thing ever

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@CrazedDoc, if you can't see that martyrdom is useful on HQ then you sir are the idiot!

As long as it isnt used on Hardcore team games thats fine.

Nothing worse than avoiding a bullet and still losing a helicopter because your idiot team-mate cant:

A: Use sensible Classes.
B: Learn to keep away from his team if he is using a stupid setup.

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If you think about it, Juggernaut isn't really a noob perk. I'm not going to lie and say it doesn't annoy me, but its not really noobish. Almost everybody uses Stopping Power. That boosts your bullet strength. So Juggernaut just evens everything back out because it takes about the same amount of damage as before. So if your going to call Juggernaut a noob perk then get rid of Stopping Power! (I don't use Juggernaut)

Also, Martydom is a completely unrealistic perk. And so is last stand. Yes, I know this is a video game, but I think its stupid that anything below that little head just lays you on the ground with your pistol. No Way! Or, you get shot in the face and a grenade just pops out? LOL, I use Bandolier, Stopping Power, and Steady aim. And I don't really care about Juggernaut.

Although Juggernaut, like most perks, doesnt annoy me in the slightest, Weezer does make a damn good point.

Every perk has a countermeasure. Instead of getting upset about it just apply different tactics. Like an RPG for example. Try out-living a direct hit with one of those !

I dare ya !

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I frag crybabies for sh*ts and giggles.
Feel free to hit me up for some Hardcore Team Deathmatch anytime.

With my style, I honestly hardly ever get bothered by martyrdom or juggernaut... CLAYMORE though ROFL, I dont even get hit by them that much but when I do it pisses me off, cause its my fault, I had a 14 streak one time (my max =[ lol Im still not that great) and I ran into a claymore that wasnt even there to protect anything, it was just there.

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Juggernoob pisses me off a good deal, mainly because even with stopping power it can take like 5 rounds or more to kill them depending on distance etc. Too unrealistic. But I'll probably be switching to HC exclusively soon, so I won't have to deal with that fact.

Last stand isn't too bad, except when teamed with juggernoob.

I use martyr in non-HC to help rank up, but that's about it. There aren't many good perk 3s really. Steady aim is nice for SMG/LMG.

I really don't like juggernaut. I hate it when I see these guys that are on their 5th to
10th prestige and still use it. And yeah eavesdrop had to be like the last perk they thought of. Something to just throw in there. It is pointless. Martydom IS useful SOMETIMES, but not on Hardcore.

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I'm gonna go the complete opposite of everyone else here. I don't hate any of them, as a matter of fact I like the fact that we have so many to choose from and are able to have so many different set-ups. People who use Jug are doing it because a) they may be new and not as skilled at moving, ducking, covering. b) because so many people use Stopping power. Martydom is easy to avoid IMO, listen for the sound of grenade being dropped when you kill someone. Last stand is not the easiest perk to use and it actually takes skill to work. I could go on about all the others but why bother. I enjoy playing against people who use the "hated" perks because when you pwn them, its alot more satisfying IMO. If you have real skill in this game, the annoying perks will not bother you that much. I can however see the problems with HC matches and HQ matches when a teammates choice of class actually makes your job harder. To me that is the only drawback to some of them. /rant

Well put.
Again, nicely said. I especially agree with your opinion concerning Last Stand.

Apart from that, I wonder why everyone seems to hate Juggernaut perk. I personally use in on my shotgun class, but see no point in adding it to the others because there are better tier 2 perks to use in my opinion (namely Stopping Power and UAV Jammer, I even use Sleight of Hand in my LMG class). I've never had any troubles with people using Juggernaut (and I don't play HC at all), in fact, I keep on guessing why they wouldn't use something better (then again, it's all about personal preference).
I can see why players get upset about martyrdom, but I use it on my shotgun class as well and, to be honest, I don't care if others whine about it.

The only thing that I avoid is the Grenade Launcher (not really a perk). I find that thing to be pretty cheap because it requires next to no aiming (short to medium range), so I stay away from it. But even though I get annoyed by that thing at times, I'd never degrade someone because they use it.